What language should I learn? - if( php =first) { echo "all is well"; } hehe

edbr · 15th July 2009, 08:00 AM

if(php=first) {
echo "all is well"; }
hehe

Jason · 15th July 2009, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edbr

if(php=first) {
echo "all is well"; }
hehe

Your syntax is incorrect, the above will always return true. Should have a double equal sign

Also to avoid the parse error php should be a variable and first should be a string.

Code:

if ($php == 'first')
{
  echo "all is well!";
}

Ofcourse you don't really need brackets

Code:

if ($php == 'first')
  echo "all is well!";

*Sigh*

I need to get out more lol

davidj · 15th July 2009, 01:18 PM

correcting Pseudocode!!!

sheesh...

Jason · 15th July 2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidj

correcting Pseudocode!!!

sheesh...

lol, it is a php forum

. On a more serious note, this is what happens when I start avoiding work... 5 things left to do today. Motivation gone, might as well mutter pointlessly on a forum till motivation returns.

Back on topic, I don't think anyone asked what this person wanted to be. If they wanted to be a front end UI developer or something similar then PHP would be the wrong way to go. Instead they should go with JavaScript and just learn enough PHP to get by.

After all, with so many good content management systems with thousands of a plugins, a web designer may never need to write a line of php code.

CloudedVision · 15th July 2009, 05:56 PM

Small correction to your PHP Jason, its good habit to always put in the brackets, even if you don't need them, because sometimes you forget to put them back in when you do need them.

SebKom · 15th July 2009, 10:40 PM

Okay guys, to bring this back on topic, what about Ruby? Do you see any of its frameworks (Rails, Nitro, etc) replacing PHP?

CloudedVision · 15th July 2009, 11:42 PM

I've learned a bit of Ruby on Rails, and it was a pretty good experience. Many more coding shortcuts than PHP. Only problem is, Ruby was never meant to be used online. So without the framework, Ruby is nothing. In other words, you can't choose not to use a framework, which sometimes you need to do. (Especially with smaller projects, sometimes you just don't want to bother with a framework.

edbr · 16th July 2009, 01:41 AM

Quote:

*Sigh*

I need to get out more lol

yes i think you do :)

davidj · 16th July 2009, 05:33 AM

Quote:

After all, with so many good content management systems with thousands of a plugins, a web designer may never need to write a line of php code.

in the back bedroom maybe but not in a professional environment

Jason · 16th July 2009, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidj

in the back bedroom maybe but not in a professional environment

Assuming that you are in a design based role at a web design agency you will often be expected to be familiar with PHP but you will not be expected to write anything.

Ofcourse without knowing what the person wants to get into the discussion is irrelevant really. If they want to be a jack of all trades freelancer then PHP is the way to go. If they want to become a developer then go on reed or a similar job agency website and look at the required skills.

Ruby is awesome, for that matter so is Django, the pay is better as demand still outstrips supply in the market at the moment.

Anyone can learn anything. If you are looking to get into Government or corporate environments then you may want to look into ASP/.net.

If you want to be on the cutting edge of web development then you may want to check out Ruby/Django

If you want to be a good developer with a skill set that can be applied to almost any type of project, go with PHP.

15th July 2009, 01:18 PM	#13
davidj Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Expertise: PHP Experience: Professional	correcting Pseudocode!!! sheesh... __________________ Do you want me to teach you PHP?

15th July 2009, 05:56 PM	#15
CloudedVision Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Your Imagination Posts: 729 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 1 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts Expertise: PHP Experience: Professional	Small correction to your PHP Jason, its good habit to always put in the brackets, even if you don't need them, because sometimes you forget to put them back in when you do need them. __________________ Panthr - Web Design and Development

15th July 2009, 11:42 PM	#17
CloudedVision Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Your Imagination Posts: 729 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 1 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts Expertise: PHP Experience: Professional	I've learned a bit of Ruby on Rails, and it was a pretty good experience. Many more coding shortcuts than PHP. Only problem is, Ruby was never meant to be used online. So without the framework, Ruby is nothing. In other words, you can't choose not to use a framework, which sometimes you need to do. (Especially with smaller projects, sometimes you just don't want to bother with a framework. __________________ Panthr - Web Design and Development

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15th July 2009, 08:00 AM	#11
edbr Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bali Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Expertise: (X)HTML / CSS Experience: Professional	if(php=first) { echo "all is well"; } hehe

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SebKom Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Corfu (Greece) & London (UK) Posts: 24 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Expertise: (X)HTML / CSS Experience: Intermediate	Okay guys, to bring this back on topic, what about Ruby? Do you see any of its frameworks (Rails, Nitro, etc) replacing PHP?